Showing posts with label Trabzonspor. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Trabzonspor. Show all posts

Friday, 27 August 2010

Liverpool 2 (3), Trabzonspor 1 (1): Moving On

By: Ed | August 26th, 2010
glen johnson

Liverpool get past a tough Trabzonspor side to progress.

I mentioned in the earlier edition of this post what an interesting match this turned out to be—I feel like we saw a couple different Liverpool squads in the two different halves, even with largely the same personnel.

Ran the gamut from extreme disappointment and negativity (see earlier comments thread in the matchday post) to a bit of pleasant surprise as Liverpool grab the late equalizer and Kuyt’s goal to kill it.

Main points for me below, and feel free to add yours in the comments.

Absolutely Atrocious First Half

There’s not much more that needs saying—Liverpool were terrifically awful in the opening minutes of the match, and they were rightfully punished by Teo Gutierrez’s 4th minute goal. The build-up to the goal started with Gustavo Colman dispossessing an uncharacteristically lazy Dirk Kuyt about forty yards from goal, and the resulting cross/shot hybrid found its way to an unmarked (and barely onside) Gutierrez.

It’s tough to say that a team have done enough to earn a goal after four minutes, but Liverpool had done little to prove otherwise, and their play for most of the first half was less than convincing. No creativity in attack, careless in possession, and far too eager to fall into an all-too familiar pattern—win back possession, retreat to the backline, send a long ball forward, repeat. As Tom put it in the earlier thread, “Carra-hoof” was the name of the game.

Bad Individually, Bad Collectively

It’s probably not worth harping on, but this was vastly different than the performance we saw on Sunday at City in the first half. Liverpool were overmatched in both first halves, but at least at the Eastlands there weren’t too many individual performances that underwhelmed. We all saw the tactical mismatch (well, lots of us did, ROY), but on a player-to-player basis it seemed like there was at least a semblance of hope left.

Today’s first half, however, was bad all-around. As noted, Kuyt was pretty poor and looked to be listlessly drifting throughout the midfield area. At times it was indiscernible what position he was actually playing, and what’s worse is that it could be said for more than just Kuyt. Fabio Aurelio looked to be lacking in match fitness, David Ngog disappeared into Trabzonspor’s back line, and there was little in terms of creativity coming out of the midfield. And while it wasn’t missed-penalty or red card bad, Joe Cole was anonymous in the role just off Ngog—little coincidence that he had more influence later in the match from a wider area.

So yeah, not much to be optimistic about at that point.

Second Half Resurgence

For everyone’s sake, I hope we don’t read a story about how Roy Hodgson gave the squad the hairdryer treatment at halftime. I’m sure he had some choice words in the locker room, but that whole concept is just white noise for me—he’ll be completely lionized for being pissed off at players that, by his own admission, he’s still getting to know, yet the press will paint it as the players giving it their all because their gaffer was so inspiring, etc. etc. whatever.

Once again, though, nothing really changed tactically, unless you can say that completing passes and maintaining more possession is a deft tactical maneuver. Liverpool looked to gain in confidence going forward, Ngog actually had a chance to waste (and did! Success!) just before creating another for himself, and Glen Johnson continued to bomb down the right side. Even as they waited for one to nose in front across the tie, it started to look like a different Liverpool.

Pacheco On, Aurelio Off

It’s hard to make a ton of noise about a five minute run-out at City and thirteen minutes tonight, but Dani Pacheco has turned out to make it a hell of a lot easier. At the Eastlands, he was one of the only players with any sort of attacking urgency—I’m aware the match was beyond repair at that point, but he still pushed forward and showed creativity that the rest of the squad were sorely lacking.

And tonight, even though he didn’t work his way onto the score sheet in any way, he changed the complexion of Liverpool’s attack. He pushed forward relentlessly, stretching a Trabzonspor defense that had previously only been tested a handful of times by anyone not named Glen Johnson. Pacheco’s pace and off-the-ball movement alone were more than enough to cause questions of the Turkish defense, and he’s exactly what Liverpool needed. Less than twenty minutes of match time between two games, but I think he’s making his case for plenty more.

Grinding Out a Late Win

Only a few times last season did we see Liverpool win one late in the match—Fernando Torres at Villa Park sticks out and Steven Gerrard’s winner at Bolton was fantastic, but outside of those, Liverpool were far more often the victims of late-match heroics than they were the benefactors, particularly in Europe.

So tonight’s win, regardless of the early worries and a few questionable performances, is one to feel good about. They overcame strong opposition in a riotous atmosphere, fought back despite an underwhelming first half performance, and found a way to win in difficult circumstances—with two goals in five minutes, no less.

It’s not the Champions League, and it’s not where Liverpool want to be. But they made the most of their opportunities, and they’re progressing in Europe. Had that been offered prior to today’s match, with today’s squad, I’d have taken it no doubt.

Well done to Liverpool—we’ll find out where they’re headed tomorrow.


Some Related Liverpool Posts:Match Preview: Liverpool v. Trabzonspor, 08.26.10Match Preview: Liverpool v. Trabzonspor, 08.19.10What’s Liverpool’s Best Eleven?Liverpool 2 (4), FK Rabotnički 0 (0): An Exercise in Restraint**UPDATED** Liverpool 1, Arsenal 1: So, So Close

Category Category: Europa League, Match Recaps, Miscellaneous, Team NewsTags Tags: Christian Poulsen, Dani Pacheco, David Ngog, Dirk Kuyt, Europa League, Fabio Aurelio, Fernando Torres, Glen Johnson, Joe Cole, Lucas, Match Recaps, Miscellaneous, Pepe Reina, Steven Gerrard, Team News
« Matchday: Liverpool v. Trabzonspor | Home | Masch Headed to Barca, Kuyt Staying, and Europa League Draw »Subscribe 

rss_icon The Offside RSS Feeds

PrintPrint articleShare.wp-notable img {border: none;margin-left:5px;}digg: reddit: stumbleupon:Galahad ThreepwoodSome of you may have already seen this, but just in case you haven't: http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/reds....

From the looks of it, Masch is headed to Barca. The ever-helpful official site didn't mention what kind of fee we'll get for him, but my guess is something less than 25-30 million. And of course, no way to know how much of what we get will actually end up going toward squad improvements. Not great news, by any means, but he's getting the move he wanted, and at least now we won't have to deal with his petulance anymore. Every cloud has a silver lining, right?EdYeah, just posted on that Galahad, among other things.

Glad it's over more than anything, it just turned into a Fabregas-esque farce. Once he refused to play on Sunday I pretty much checked out for good. I had already packed his bags in late July, so this isn't real tough to take.

I will, however, be irate if they don't free up some of the money for transfers. If not now, at least in January.

Ha, who am I kidding, they'll just get Robbie Savage on a free.Kxevin16m+6m in incentives (Pounds). Good business for both sides. You get rid of a player who didn't want to be there and money to play with, we get needed reinforcement at DM. Good luck this season.Galahad ThreepwoodThanks, Kxevin. I hope he works out well for you; he's one hell of a defensive mid when his mind is in the right place. :)DeadpoolHa Ha well said Grubb, but in fairness him losing the ball is not really a point in my favor. It happens and probably more so when other teams are chasing you before every match(God I hate how the transfer window doesn't end before the season starts). On the otherhand I still believe that Dirk would be even more beneficial as a support striker, he would still do the followups and chasing that we know and love him for and have the added benefit of not slowing down every attack from the right side. All said neither of us will budge an inch in our stance so I guess the best hope is gentleman's draw. LaterGrubbFAo Deadpool - sorry I missed your comments the other day, would've liked to reply but only just found them now.

Of course I want an Adam Johnson style pacy, tricky winger. Of course I scratch my head every time Arsenal sign another technical player or City pick up Johnson from a Championship team and wonder where we were on those ones. And how in the hell have we not signed Arda? Why is Hatem Ben Arfa signing for NUFC when he played so well against us in the CL previously?

Didn't being schooled by Atletico teach us we need a Reyes or a Jurado or 3?

Rafa didn't go for this type of player and so far Roy hasn't either. I don't know why, but all these players being pacy and tricky doesn't therefore mean Kuyt is crap.

Ideally I think Kuyt plays well in a 4-2-3-1 with an overlapping fullback in GJ. And Ed hit the nail on the head in your discussion - Kuyt is the balance for the flair players. His movement creates space for them, his industrious effort gives them a ball to play out. He also does smart things like follow in on shots and takes up nice positions around the penalty area.

I don't want rid of Kuyt, but I do want some pace, trickery and flair around him. Does that mean we're not far from the same opinion?GrubbAh Dirk you rugged enigma! One gaffe for Deadpool to throw in my face and a smart follow up and tap in for me and my 'statistics' argument lol. Thanks for clearing the argument up Dirky!

But seriously, what Noel said. x2.steven.grotesque first half followed up by a less than spectacular second .. the TRABZONSPOR were up for it today alright .. the YOUR ALONE HERE banner was class as well...JoelI think Lucas/Poulsen will be a good pairing, if we play with pace on the wings. The problem from that pairing arises when we play like to night, with Kuyt and Aurelio. If we play two of Maxi/Pacheco/Babel/Cole/Jova, Lucas/Poulsen will look completely different.

Lucas Poulsen
Maxi Gerrard Cole

or:

Gerrard Poulsen
Kuyt Cole Pacheco

No more of this Lucas/Poulsen + slow wide menNoelFor me the problem today (as I got at in the game thread) on the right was Kuyt playing at first terribly and then without a defined position on the right. With holding midfielders, Johnson is the pacy provider of width on the right and he did fantastically.

I think the problem lies (aside from Kuyt's off day) in that the more holding/conservative of the central midfield pairing will likely always be on the left of midfield, and that does not fit the personnel in the least.

When Lucas or Poulsen pairs with Gerrard, Gerrard is the more attack right sided central mid. When Lucas pairs with Poulsen, Lucas is the more attacking right sided central mid. Meanwhile, whether it's Aurelio paired with Jovanovic or Kelly paired with Aurelio, it's not a stretch to suggest that the left sided fullback is less likely to provide width than Johnson is, and an effective imbalanced formation should involve the holding midfielder being shaded towards the right to cover for Johnson's forward runs while the left sided "holding" mid is given more license to bomb forward in fairly central areas. Meanwhile, the left midfielder--be it Jovanovic or Aurelio--would be more involved in providing width on the left side of the pitch than Kuyt (or whoever would be on the right) would be on the opposite side.

It's what Brazil has always done tactically. And if Brazil likes to do it, it can't be that awful an idea.

But watching Kelly, Aurelio, and Poulsen bunch together uselessly around midfield whenever Liverpool tried to attack in the first half made me want to throw things at my television. Especially when Aurelio would move inside of Poulsen's "line" on the attack, depriving the left of any semblance of width.

Though in his defense, Hodgeson did seem to encourage Aurelio to take up a wider position in the second half. Though when you've got a Kelly-Aurelio-Poulsen grouping and a Johnson-Kuyt-Lucas grouping, it doesn't seem as though asking them to play as mirror images from the start is the smartest tactic.Noel...and apparently Disqus doesn't like me, since I've seen plenty of "edited" tags but when I try to rectify a few typos it just spins its wheels endlessly. Ah well...Galahad ThreepwoodI hope Pacheco does play on Sunday. I would love to see him in action--was unable to watch the two games in which he came on late. He sounds like a pacy son of a bitch (to quote Ed), and we can definitely use a player like that. I know he's still pretty young, but maybe putting him in the starting XI is the jolt we need to get moving in the right direction.EdI said that? So eloquently?Galahad ThreepwoodWell, you said it about Glen Johnson...but I figured it applied to Pacheco too. :)RustyNigelgotta say that Pacheco has to be the man of the match despite only playing 10 minutes he was involved in both goals and was the only player who had the 'spark' that creates chances. If he doesn't start on Sunday then I'm afraid that Roy has lost my trust, been a fan of DPach since we bought him from barca and he seemed to up the tempo after coming on against city and tonight.blog comments powered by Disqus
Follow Us

           

England National Team News Where's the Revolution? Joe Hart: He's Really Quite Good Exclusive interview with Raphael Honigstein! more news...
Search The Offside


 
rounded_corners



Related Links

Liverpool Football ShirtsLiverpool Betting OddsFernando Torres
Categories

Champions LeagueEuropa LeagueHillsboroughInternational DutyLeague CupMatch PreviewsMatch RecapsMatchday PostsMiscellaneousPremier LeagueSeason ReviewSpecial FeaturesTeam NewsTransfer NewsWorld CupWorld Cup 2010
rounded_corners

Send Your Tips!

Found a great story, photo or video that's perfect for The Offside?
Email liverpool[at]theoffside[dot]com
Write for The Offside
LATEST COMMENTS

Masch Headed to Barca, Kuyt Staying, and Europa League Draw
Ed: Liquid lunch, steven. Masch Headed to Barca, Kuyt Staying, and Europa League Draw
Ed: Oh. You mean that could still happen? I...oh. Masch Headed to Barca, Kuyt Staying, and Europa League Draw
Rosco: Mazel tov to that!!!!! Masch Headed to Barca, Kuyt Staying, and Europa League Draw
Sairax: What about going out :S Masch Headed to Barca, Kuyt Staying, and Europa League Draw
Ed: None on the horizon, Sairax--I'm sure we'll see something happen before Tuesday, but I don& ... [read more] Masch Headed to Barca, Kuyt Staying, and Europa League Draw
Ed: That last sentence is more like it, Rosco!I think I'll get to the point you're at, but right ... [read more] Masch Headed to Barca, Kuyt Staying, and Europa League Draw
Rosco: Thtll be ROY gets the money. Bloody iPhone spellchecker Masch Headed to Barca, Kuyt Staying, and Europa League Draw
Rosco: I for one (possibly the only one, ED!! Kidding kidding, before Noel attacks me) wish masch the best ... [read more] Masch Headed to Barca, Kuyt Staying, and Europa League Draw
Sairax: Couldn't he have left BEFORE you guys played my beloved gunners?Seriously though, this seems a b ... [read more] Masch Headed to Barca, Kuyt Staying, and Europa League Draw
steven.: between Macherano leaving and our draw, my lunch is ruined ..
Archives

Select Archive Month August 2010 July 2010 June 2010 May 2010 April 2010 March 2010 February 2010 January 2010 December 2009 November 2009 October 2009 September 2009 August 2009 July 2009 May 2009 April 2009 March 2009 February 2009 January 2009 December 2008 November 2008 October 2008 September 2008 August 2008 July 2008 June 2008 May 2008 April 2008 March 2008 February 2008 January 2008 December 2007 November 2007 October 2007 September 2007 August 2007 July 2007 June 2007 May 2007 April 2007 March 2007 February 2007 January 2007 December 2006 November 2006 October 2006

 About The Offside | Advertise on The Offside | Privacy Policy


Top Content: England Team Blog | The Hillsborough 96 | Joe Cole to Liverpool | EPL Match Tickets | Anfield Moments | 2009-10 Liverpool Goals

Related information: EPL Store | England Kits | Manchester United | Chelsea FC | Arsenal | England Travel Guide | Liverpool Night Life and Hotels | London Airfare

© BootsnAll Travel Network - All rights reserved
EuropeEngland: PremiershipEngland: ChampionshipEngland: League One England: League Two FranceGermanyGreeceHollandItalyPolandPortugalRussiaScotlandSpainTurkeyAfricaEgyptTunisiaAustraliaSouth AmericaArgentinaBrazilColombia North AmericaMexicoMLSNPSLUSLWomen's SoccerCup CompetitionsChampions LeagueEuropa LeagueCopa LibertadoresCopa SudamericanaPlayersJozy AltidoreAlberto AquilaniDavid BeckhamGianluigi BuffonAntonio CassanoAlessandro Del PieroDaniele De RossiCesc FabregasSteven GerrardPippo InzaghiKakaLionel MessiMidoCristiano RonaldoRonaldinhoFrancesco TottiSoccer Betting  |  World Cup 2010
Plan Your Soccer Travels  |  Soccer TicketsClose XLiverpool  Home    World    Europe    English Premier League     Liverpool   StoreTravelScores England: PremiershipEngland: ChampionshipEngland: League OneEngland: League TwoEngland: ConferenceFranceGermanyGreeceHollandItaly PolandPortugalRomaniaRussiaScotlandSpainTurkeyUkraineChampions League  |  Europa LeagueClose X Quantcast

Liverpool left it late defeating Trabzonspor, 2-1

By Shourin Roy on August 26, 2010 6:34 PM | 1 Comment | TrackBacksShare|

It all looked a bit grim for Liverpool as Teofilo Gutierrez's 4th minute goal stood for 80 more minutes before Glen Johnson's foray down the right resulted in an own goal by Remzi Giray Kacar.

In the 88th minute, Dani Pacheco in a cameo showing signs he maybe the face of the future, took a nicely timed swing which Trabzon's goalie Onur Kivrak was unable to hold onto and newly committed Dirk Kuyt was at hand to win it for Liverpool. Before the match began the Liverpool striker had earned kudos for spurning Inter's overtures and pledging his future at Anfield.

Liverpool looked much better in the second half as Joe Cole came alive with some nice deliveries to isolate David Ngog who had two very good looks.

Roy Hodgson was a much relieved man. He has legions of skeptics who deride him as Sir Woy and a loss would have put him on very thin ice.



soccerblog Categories: Gossip/Trash Talk, Soccer Business, Soccer Coaches & Coaching, Soccer Culture, Soccer Hall of Fame, Soccer History, Soccer Players, Soccer Skills, Soccer Teams - Club Tags: Dirk Kuyt, Europa Cup 2010-2011, Liverpool, Trabzonspor No TrackBacks

TrackBack URL: http://www.soccerblog.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-t.cgi/7541.

1 Comment Edward Sasam | August 27, 2010 10:10 AM | Reply

Congratulations to Liverpool! I hope they do well in the EUFA Champions League.

Leave a comment Name Email Address URL Remember personal info? Comments Offers

Newsletter


Solar Electric Light Fund


Steel Pulse


ABOUT SOCCERBLOG.com SoccerBlog.com is a fan-driven site founded by Christian and Shourin. Our goal is to cover the beautiful game and talk about some of the issues that may not be covered elsewhere. Since we aren't any good at playing, we decided to talk about soccer instead!


TICKETS>> GoTickets.com has all of the soccer tickets you're looking for, including Premier League tickets, World Cup tickets and World Cup packages. In the mood for different kind of futbol? We also have the NFL football tickets and Super Bowl packages to satisfy any fan's needs.


Your Ad Here >>
Contact: christian [at] christiansarkar [dot] com Subscribe to feed Subscribe to this blog's feed Categories Africa Cup of Nations 2010 (24) Champions League 2009-2010 (136) Champions League 2010-2011 (8) Concacaf Gold Cup 2009 (16) Confederations Cup 2009 (61) English Premier League 2010 (475) English Premier League 2011 (91) Euro 2008 (173) Euro 2012 (1) Gossip/Trash Talk (3121) MLS 2011 (24) Soccer Advertising (321) Soccer Books & Magazines (277) Soccer Business (1900) Soccer Coaches & Coaching (2979) Soccer Culture (3263) Soccer Hall of Fame (660) Soccer History (2577) Soccer Humor (582) Soccer Players (4264) Soccer Politics (845) Soccer Site Reviews (33) Soccer Skills (3476) Soccer Teams - Club (3309) Soccer Teams - National (2181) Soccer Videos (1429) Women's Soccer (18) World Cup 2006 (816) World Cup 2010 (875) World Cup History (521) Monthly Archives August 2010 (152) July 2010 (240) June 2010 (399) May 2010 (228) April 2010 (208) March 2010 (151) February 2010 (143) January 2010 (76) December 2009 (114) November 2009 (200) October 2009 (155) September 2009 (122) August 2009 (188) July 2009 (179) June 2009 (198) May 2009 (216) April 2009 (165) March 2009 (69) February 2009 (47) January 2009 (52) December 2008 (42) November 2008 (92) October 2008 (119) September 2008 (102) August 2008 (61) July 2008 (76) June 2008 (88) May 2008 (59) April 2008 (46) March 2008 (35) February 2008 (86) January 2008 (58) December 2007 (93) November 2007 (83) October 2007 (49) September 2007 (75) August 2007 (122) July 2007 (132) June 2007 (143) May 2007 (129) April 2007 (87) March 2007 (79) February 2007 (112) January 2007 (119) December 2006 (113) November 2006 (152) October 2006 (120) September 2006 (122) August 2006 (113) July 2006 (213) June 2006 (429) May 2006 (221) April 2006 (240) March 2006 (66) Search About this Entry This page contains a single entry by Shourin Roy published on August 26, 2010 6:34 PM.

Champions League draw: Arsenal's Brazilian pitfalls was the previous entry in this blog.

Aston Villa crash out against Rapid Wien, 2-3 (agg 3-4) is the next entry in this blog.

Find recent content on the main index or look in the archives to find all content.


Site design and management by Christian Sarkar

Thursday, 26 August 2010

Matchday: Liverpool v. Trabzonspor

By: Ed | August 26th, 2010
trab

Kickoff from Hüseyin Avni Aker Stadium at 18:30 GMT, 1:30 EST.

Streams:

Match shown live in the UK on ESPN(HD).

MyP2P.eu
Atdhe.net
ChannelSurfing.net

Liverpool:

Reina
Johnson Kyrgiakos Carragher Kelly
Kuyt Lucas Poulsen Aurelio
Cole
Ngog

Bench: Gulacsi, Pacheco, Babel, Spearing, Shelvey, Skrtel, Eccleston

Pretty similar to what was expected—draw it up 4-4-1-1 or 4-2-3-1, it’s going to be a primarily defensive affair. That both Aurelio and Kelly start is telling, and Kuyt’s presence on the right serves a defensive purpose as well. I’d expect to see the pace if Liverpool need a goal late, otherwise it’s gonna be ugly. So long as Liverpool come through on the other side, I’ll be fine with it.

Trabzonspor:

Kivrak
Cale Korkmaz Kacar Balci
Colman Gulselam Inan Yilmaz Gutierrez
Yattara

Bench: Zengin, Baytar, Atas, Alanzinho, Badur, Jaja, Oztorun

In the run-up:

Slow day of news so far, but a few things worth mentioning:

—Roy Hodgson has finally confirmed another poorly-kept secret, and this time it’s that he’s interested in the services of Paul Konchesky. Obviously the two worked together during Hodgson’s time at Fulham, and apparently there’s still a level of interest from the Liverpool boss. It doesn’t sound like there’s anything beyond an inquiry that’s occurred, but it’s also not as if there’s tons of time left to do business.

I’ve mostly seen negative reactions to Hodgson’s pursuit of Konchesky—most say that it’s purely a policy-driven move (homegrown, etc. etc.), that he’s not the “type of player” Liverpool should be after, and that it’s just another indicator of how completely f***ed Liverpool’s financial situation is. At this point, you won’t find me disagreeing with much. No disrespect to Konchesky, who’s pieced together a good career in the Premier League with a handful of clubs.

But going after a 29 year-old defender as the only cover for an oft-injured 30 year-old defender just doesn’t make any sense. There’s still no word on Emiliano Insua’s status, but he’s again missing from the squad today, and I’m guessing they’re still trying to move him. Which would leave the depth chart at left back looking something like Aurelio-Konchesky-Kelly-Agger-Wilson; not awful, but a strange assortment of talent. Long-term we’re looking at someone like Chris Mavinga (who, outside of Fabio Aurelio, is the only “true” left back in the system) growing into the role, but that’s still years away.

Anyway, I assume it’d be a move primarily for depth, and it’d be one that is again met with mixed emotions. I guess I’m just waiting for Liverpool to make some sort move in the transfer market in which they actually spend money. Pardon me, that’s crazy talk. Sometimes I just get too excited.

—The only other thing qualifying as news relates to Jamie Carragher’s upcoming testimonial match—the Echo has pieced together a gallery of some of his most memorable moments along with requests for supporters’ favorite memories ahead of the September 4th match against an Everton XI. His third-degree assault of Alvaro Arbeloa in 2009 is conspicuously absent from the slideshow, but I’ll be sure to submit it as one of my fondest recollections of the man.

More and more I’ve read requests for Carragher to be displaced in the Liverpool back line, and I think it’s on the horizon—just not very soon. I think a large part of it is dependent on the left back situation getting sorted, as there’s never going to be another partnership (Skrtel-Agger being the most likely) as long as Aurelio is the only left back in the side. Martin Kelly’s emergence might help matters, and Dani Ayala is on his way up, but there’s still a lack of proven options beyond Carragher, Skrtel, Kyrgiakos, and Agger. At this point, if only three are going to be available, I’d still take Carra.

—That’s about it for now.

Oh, one other thing:

kyrg

Unleash the Trabzonspor!!!



Category Category: Europa League, Matchday Posts, Team NewsTags Tags: Dani Ayala, Daniel Agger, Danny Wilson, Europa League, Fabio Aurelio, Jamie Carragher, Martin Kelly, Martin Škrtel, Matchday Posts, Roy Hodgson, Sotirios Kyrgiakos, Team News
« Match Preview: Liverpool v. Trabzonspor, 08.26.10 | Home | Subscribe 

rss_icon The Offside RSS Feeds

PrintPrint articleShare.wp-notable img {border: none;margin-left:5px;}digg: reddit: stumbleupon:NoelI for one could go for some Pacheco for Kelly and Aurelio sliding back right about now.RoscoLooks like ngogs nice run has fizzled out!RoscoOh how I wouldve loved him to shut me up jst then haEdBad miss--better overall, but not a great header from him. Blurgh.Tom FooleryCertainly I do agree that it wouldn't be ideal to push Glen into an unfamiliar role, and he does have the legs to keep running from the back...the frustration has clearly gotten the best of me at this point, and my patience is thin. The team did grow as the half went on though. Oh, and Poulsen for Aquilani....FACK! Sorry, it still bugs the hell outta me.RoscoThe lack of width is frightening. Don't know about you but i was under the impression two holding midfielders should allow the wingers to play . . . Well . . . Down the wing.NoelTo be fair, it should allow the fullbacks to provide the width, and Johnson playing as a forward is testament to that... but on the left hand side you've got Kelly and Aurelio stacked, with Aurelio seemingly being told to play inside, so any width is likely to be lopsided at best.RoscoDamn tootin, Johnson seems to be our most attacking player these days!!!NoelAs far as formations go, compare that to City, where he hung around the half line looking like he didn't know what he was supposed to do--that he's been one of the (very) few bright spots in the half is down to having free reign going forward because of defensive cover from the holding mids. It's also why Kuyt is inside tonight in this system rather than being the one asked to provide width on Monday... of course, even as a big fan of his, I can hardly defend his disinterested and sloppy first half performance, especially seeing as he's in the "Kuyt" roll and has Johnson looking good around him.

And they really should be playing it properly imbalanced--Kelly isn't going to provide width, since he's not a natural FB, so Aurelio should be asked to play out wide from midfield while one of the holding midfielders is given more license to move up.

That's an adjustment I'd really like to see... though it's not like I would expect Kelly to provide width from the start, so I'm not sure it should be an "adjustment" in the first place.

Dire half, though. And I've typed enough for now.Noel...oh, though it strikes me that part of why the left side looks so inept is that Poulsen is the left sided holding player. It's not just Kelly and Aurelio who are stacked, it's Kelly, Aurelio, and Poulsen.

Meanwhile on the right you've got a fullback who actually provides width along with the holding mid you'd prefer to see given freer reign and an attacking midfielder who in theory can do the job but is playing like shit.

As it stands the formation is imbalanced, but seemingly more out of ineptitude than design (and if you recall the few times in the last couple of years when Aurelio was pushed up, he was always played more wide--similar to how Reira was--rather than in a more interior role).Tom FooleryRight, so why not drop Fabio, switch Kelly, push up Johnson, and switch/sub Kuyt. This might allow for some play down the wing...God forbidNoelJohnson's providing width fine as is, and the best spot for an attacking fullback isn't always in midfield, otherwise they likely would have already been a midfielder. To me, trying to turn him into that is the same as turning Agger into a Left Back.

Johnson is good as a fullback in a system that uses a fullback to provide width. Play him in that system if you want the best from him rather than trying to play him in a different spot in a different system.EdWoah, woah, slow down on the sense-making, Tom.Tom FooleryWhat was that about starting to drink early?.....Darren_VAll you need to do is score once and they have to put 2 more in... It's still quite doable and likely for 'pool.NoelI'm not so sure about that--on the run of play, they deserve the lead, and Liverpool's shown no real ability to play possession or on the counter so far. And the lack of adjustments seen in the last match makes me... yeah.Tom FooleryTotally, so far we have every right to be negative, we've looked woeful at best. No one looks like they even want the ball. Its like everyone in red is saying, "get that round thing away from me, I don't know how to dribble, or pass, or shoot...". While the Turks look completely comfortable.
New drinking game: Take a shot everytime we see a Carra-hoof.NoelLucas and Johnson have maybe started to look like they're willing to take a run at it every now and then... whether it can amount to anything, of course, is a different story. But Kuyt looks like a man who didn't expect to play, N'Gog's touch is as bad as I've ever seen it, Cole hasn't imposed himself on the game, and... here comes another Carrahoof.Ed"Carra-hoof" has been Twitterized, well done.Darren_VSo your under the table already are ya?NoelFatalism goes hand in hand with supporting certain clubs.EdYes, likely, that's the word.Darren_VWow, you guys are more negative about Liverpool than I am. I don't even cheer for you guy. CrazyEdNot negative, really, just the way things have played out thus far I wouldn't say that anything positive for Liverpool is "likely."

They'll need some luck to prevent conceding another if they're going to continue to give away possession like they have, and they'll need to create something in attack other than hoofing it up to the forward men.NoelWell, that was fast. Good to see the experience of Carragher playing the offside trap to perfection.EdLiverpool's lineup released, post updated.

Trabzonspor's lineup now up as well.AmpleforthEd, I couldn't help but notice that you've been implicated in the abetting of blog theft, that's f**ked up dude

http://spurs.theoffside.com/team-news/onward-to...NoelCatfight!

But seriously, when I steal the blog out from under you, Ed, I'm gonna send Bill Gates to take away your internet access so you can't return like that and have it lead to any awkward moments.

And I am assuming the writers here get compensated with occasional shipments of hard liquor for their efforts. Otherwise just forget all that stuff about stealing the blog from you.EdLibelous!

Playing FIFA with someone does not constitute abetting--had I told him something during the course of playing like, "hey, you should think about writing on the blog even though someone else took over because you didn't do sh*t for three months," that would be abetting.

Sadly at 2am after copious amounts of Busch Light I didn't have to proper faculties to come up with something so clever. Plus that was in July--the moment has passed.AmpleforthYour quick jump to the defense reeks of guilt. Or maybe I'm just smelling the lingering aroma of farts and throw-up from a July bender. Either way, it ain't good. In all likelihood, this Wes guy was just name dropping to up his cyber-cred, we all know the name Ed carries a lot of weight in this small circle of friends.NoelSeems that Roy the man manager hasn't exactly put his arm around Mavinga's shoulder and told him he's a top bloke: http://www.francefootball.fr/FF/breves2010/2010...

Coles notes translation: Mavinga feels he's being pushed out by a move towards becoming a fully "English" club at all levels, has been told English kids will be given preference, has been given no suggestion he's in any future plans under the new regime, and unsurprisingly now seems to very much want away, feeling it's the only way he'll have a shot at a career.EdChrist, even using a free translator I can see he's on his way out. Also, he apparently enjoys cats playing the banjo.

What a crock of shit--should he leave, that's only Martin Kelly and Danny Wilson as younger defenders who can play left back, neither of which is, actually, a left back.NoelIf what he's saying paints an accurate picture of the situation, it's more than just that. Then you have to worry about what's going to become of players like Suso, Silva, and LDV, too. Meanwhile the whole Rafa youth set up was finally in something resembling a finished state and pushing players into the fringes of the first team with a handful of really tantalizing prospects for a couple of years down the line.

Five years to set up a system, six months to set it back to what it was under Houllier?EdGlad you took it a step further, because I thought about it, laughed nervously, and then pretended to ignore it.NoelI thought about it, laughed nervously, and then decided it's never too early to start abusing my liver.justinAfter the defeat to Citeh, I was so depressed that I tried to seek solace in watching a season review of Liverpool's 08-09 season, but it only made the sinking feeling even worse *lol*

The fluidity, confidence and even the resilience that we'd been accustomed to before seems to be missing from the side since last season.

After a positive flurry of news regarding the ownership and some transfers earlier this season, reality hit pretty hard in the face with that 3-0 defeat. Nonetheless, it has to be recognized that we did start off with very tough fixtures which on paper we would probably have lost those two games but you have to wonder what if we'd won that game against Arsenal instead of drawing it.

It's a tough time to be a Liverpool fan, tough time to keep the faith, its hard really. But I don't think we're that bad a side, but other teams have been getting much better and we haven't been able to compete on that front.

I'd withdrawal symptoms after that Citeh defeat and couldn't bear hearing any sorta news about Liverpool but it's time to put that behind and look forward to a good game against Trabzon.

I hope the boys do the fans proud.blog comments powered by Disqus
Follow Us

           

England National Team News Where's the Revolution? Joe Hart: He's Really Quite Good Exclusive interview with Raphael Honigstein! more news...
Search The Offside


 
rounded_corners



Related Links

Liverpool Football ShirtsLiverpool Betting OddsFernando Torres
Categories

Champions LeagueEuropa LeagueHillsboroughInternational DutyLeague CupMatch PreviewsMatch RecapsMatchday PostsMiscellaneousPremier LeagueSeason ReviewSpecial FeaturesTeam NewsTransfer NewsWorld CupWorld Cup 2010
rounded_corners

Send Your Tips!

Found a great story, photo or video that's perfect for The Offside?
Email liverpool[at]theoffside[dot]com
Write for The Offside
LATEST COMMENTS


Noel: I for one could go for some Pacheco for Kelly and Aurelio sliding back right about now.
Rosco: Oh how I wouldve loved him to shut me up jst then ha
Ed: Bad miss--better overall, but not a great header from him. Blurgh.
Rosco: Looks like ngogs nice run has fizzled out!
Tom Foolery: Certainly I do agree that it wouldn't be ideal to push Glen into an unfamiliar role, and he does ... [read more]
Noel: ...oh, though it strikes me that part of why the left side looks so inept is that Poulsen is the lef ... [read more]
Noel: Johnson's providing width fine as is, and the best spot for an attacking fullback isn't alwa ... [read more]
Noel: As far as formations go, compare that to City, where he hung around the half line looking like he di ... [read more]
Ed: Woah, woah, slow down on the sense-making, Tom.
Tom Foolery: Right, so why not drop Fabio, switch Kelly, push up Johnson, and switch/sub Kuyt. This might allow f ... [read more]
Archives

Select Archive Month August 2010 July 2010 June 2010 May 2010 April 2010 March 2010 February 2010 January 2010 December 2009 November 2009 October 2009 September 2009 August 2009 July 2009 May 2009 April 2009 March 2009 February 2009 January 2009 December 2008 November 2008 October 2008 September 2008 August 2008 July 2008 June 2008 May 2008 April 2008 March 2008 February 2008 January 2008 December 2007 November 2007 October 2007 September 2007 August 2007 July 2007 June 2007 May 2007 April 2007 March 2007 February 2007 January 2007 December 2006 November 2006 October 2006

 About The Offside | Advertise on The Offside | Privacy Policy


Top Content: England Team Blog | The Hillsborough 96 | Joe Cole to Liverpool | EPL Match Tickets | Anfield Moments | 2009-10 Liverpool Goals

Related information: EPL Store | England Kits | Manchester United | Chelsea FC | Arsenal | England Travel Guide | Liverpool Night Life and Hotels | London Airfare

© BootsnAll Travel Network - All rights reserved
EuropeEngland: PremiershipEngland: ChampionshipEngland: League One England: League Two FranceGermanyGreeceHollandItalyPolandPortugalRussiaScotlandSpainTurkeyAfricaEgyptTunisiaAustraliaSouth AmericaArgentinaBrazilColombia North AmericaMexicoMLSNPSLUSLWomen's SoccerCup CompetitionsChampions LeagueEuropa LeagueCopa LibertadoresCopa SudamericanaPlayersJozy AltidoreAlberto AquilaniDavid BeckhamGianluigi BuffonAntonio CassanoAlessandro Del PieroDaniele De RossiCesc FabregasSteven GerrardPippo InzaghiKakaLionel MessiMidoCristiano RonaldoRonaldinhoFrancesco TottiSoccer Betting  |  World Cup 2010
Plan Your Soccer Travels  |  Soccer TicketsClose XLiverpool  Home    World    Europe    English Premier League     Liverpool   StoreTravelScores England: PremiershipEngland: ChampionshipEngland: League OneEngland: League TwoEngland: ConferenceFranceGermanyGreeceHollandItaly PolandPortugalRomaniaRussiaScotlandSpainTurkeyUkraineChampions League  |  Europa LeagueClose X Quantcast