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Monday, 31 January 2011

Transfermas Morning, Rolling Updates Edition

By: Noel | January 31st, 2011
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After a rather dull start, the transfer window has turned into quite the circus for your average Liverpool fan. And today could be somewhat interesting, to put it mildly.

In “News that has unfortunately been overshadowed by the Torres situation” news, new record signing Luis Suarez has passed his medical, and having already agreed to personal terms it’s the last obstacle before officially signing on as the newest member of Liverpool Football Club. Which is, you know, good. Though that part about “record signing” is also a reminder of just how odd it is that Torres would put up with the last 18 months only to try and bolt once owners willing to prove their ambition had arrived, as well as being a real shame in that what should be one of the happiest times for a Liverpool fan in those past 18 months has suddenly been turned on its head.

Elsewhere, the most common rumours have Liverpool making a run at Ashley Young and one last try for Charlie Adam before the day ends, regardless of what happens on the Torres front. Just how developments–if any–regarding the striker will affect those or any other deals that may or may not be in the works remains to be seen, though rest assured a lot of people will say a lot of things today, and even the most reliable and well meaning will probably be wrong at least as often as not. Then there will be the less reliable and less well meaning sorts to sort through, too. Heck, this seems like the sort of sorting thing the Guardian will probably start a liveblog for at some point, though not having Ryan Babel’s helicopter to track this time around might take some fun out of proceedings.

In other outgoings news, the reports that Paul Konchesky was on his way back to Fulham and Stephen Warnock would be arriving in his place have largely gone quiet after everybody thought it was a done deal, and though there have been occasional quiet whispers about finding a new home for Cole, nothing serious has seemed to develop on that front. Though of course all should recall just how quiet things got on the Suarez front right before good news broke, and also that with the Boston Red Sox, FSG are somewhat notorious for making major moves at the last possible second.

In any case, in any other season landing by far the biggest name to date in the always difficult January window would be reason for celebration. This year, it’s turned out to be rather more complicated than that, which might well be entertaining if it was some other club being robbed of their momentum, but there you go. Whatever happens over the next little bit, do try to play somewhat nice, though as that’s usually not a problem around these parts I suspect that shouldn’t be a problem today. Also, Ed and I won’t be able to be around every minute of the day, particularly early on, so if you do see some reliable and genuinely new breaking news you think everybody needs to know, please pass it along in the comments section.

Otherwise, consider this an open thread for talking about the day’s early developments. You might want to have both your celebratory and misery alcohol at hand. Or, you know, just some sort of crazy and magical drink that would work for either situation, if you want to keep things simple. Here’s hoping we all manage to get through today in one piece.

Update: Ben Smith of The Times says Torres will only be sold today “if their valuation is met AND Dalglish can sign replacements in time.” Well, if it has to be, then that’s about the best that could be hoped for. Hopefully it either is that, or he’s here until at least the summer.

Update (by Ed): Just sabotaging Noel’s post to confirm that Paul Konchesky has been loaned to Nottingham Forest and Daniel Ayala’s headed to Derby, as reported by Kenny Dalglish in his presser. Comments on Suarez and Torres also included via the above link, and as expected, they’re absolute class from the manager. Back to drinking. Er, off to work.

Update (by Ed): Nothing concrete to report as of yet, but talk about Fernando Torres heading to Chelsea has ramped up, as has the talk of Liverpool trying to pry Andy Carroll away from Newcastle. News of Alan Pardew’s scheduled presser this afternoon being canceled has obviously confirmed that the signing is imminent. Or other stuff.

In the meantime, here’s a video of that ominous BWWWAAAAHHHHing noise from Inception set to various mundane events. Seems appropriate for the inevitable horrors we’re about to witness.

Update (by Ed): The Twitter just exploded with news that Liverpool have agreed a £35m fee for Andy Carroll. Or they matched Newcastle’s valuation. Or that’s the cost of the helicopter ride from Newcastle to Liverpool. The Times/Guardian/Mirror all simultaneously releasing the news, and LFC.tv has crashed. That’s big bucks.

Update (by Ed): Right, an update—seems to be quite a bit of outrage about the amount of cash Liverpool are willing to splash on Andy Carroll, given that he’s currently injured and doesn’t necessarily have the most illustrious career. Given that nobody really knows the specifics of the structure of the offer, I guess we wait to see.

And as has been the case over the last few days, Luis Suarez takes a backseat unfortunately. Reports have him taking the number 7 shirt, though, which is actual news that we can get behind. Hopefully he fares better than the last inhabitant…

Update (by Ed): Now there’s news that the latest offer for Andy Carroll has been rejected by Newcastle. Turns out that his rumored visit to Liverpool is now a sightseeing trip, I suppose.

Nothing new on Torres, Ashely Young, Charlie Adam, so the unrelenting assault on your blood pressure continues.

Anyone else looking forward to today being over?

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Tags: Ashley Young, Causes of Alcoholism, Charlie Adam, Fernando Torres, FSG, Joe Cole, Luis Suarez, Miscellaneous, Paul Konchesky, Premier League, Transfer News, Transfer Rumors, Transfers, Violent Mood Swings
Tweet « All the Torres That’s Fit to Torres | Home | The Final Countdown, With More Rolling Updates »BaldrickNewcastle are still not budging...anyone else thinking that £30m+ is waaaayyy too much for Carroll?

There must be better options out there for that sort of cash?

As it stands Nando is still our No9....here's hoping it stays that way. What's the world record for keeping one's fingers crossed bearing in mind that I have to drive into work in 4hrs?dsm9412I still think the move is to talk to him and say that it's just not happening this window and they'll shop him around in summer. Hope he is lightened up by Dalglish and Suarez for the rest of the season, and if not go ahead and transfer him.

Trying to make some of the most important long term decisions with your side seems like a terrible thing to do in eight hours.EdSo, £35m for Andy Carroll.alcatrazzledazzleHopefully that's in Turkish liraEdWhat else would they use?RoscoJust seen it scroll by on the sky sports info bar.
Crazy money. What you think?BaldrickCarroll making his way to Liverpool.... possibly to agree terms (Sky Sports reliable source)EdThat's what we call an oxymoron.BaldrickJeez no need to get personal pal...EdLike you say, it's crazy money, but informed by the Torres debacle and likely driven by the fact that he's young, British, and that Darren Bent was signed for crazy money as well.

I also think I should have taken today off from work, as it's not yet 9:30 and my forehead vein is quite close to exploding.RussellRI feel like there are alot of better strikers, who would be much better to go with Suarez... this carrol thing, no thanks. Earlier someone also said something about GOmez from Bayern, now this won't happen, but if it did I'd shoot myself in the face. He's lazy as scheisse for his own national team so I don't want him here. NOt worth it.RoscoWhere's that came from ed?EdStarted with the generic Guardian/Times tweeters, gradually Tony Barrett and Rory Smith chimed in to say that's Newcastle's valuation, and apparently Liverpool have ponied up. Nothing agreed yet, still waiting to see if Newcastle agree.xantheinaTwitter Trends in the UK:

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wait... what?RoscoTorres' helicopter to land at cobham in the next half an hour.
Good luck with your new team of ageing rejects you turncoat bastard!BaldrickJust hope that Kenny has something up his sleeve... he was quoted as saying that Torres wouldn't be allowed to go unless they had a replacement. Personally I reckon this could be a good piece of business for FSG as despite standing up to the myth before I do feel that we are a bit too reliant on G&T. Suarez is a massive talent all we need is a recognised striker in the mould of Aldo/Rushie to play up front. Although a fantastic striker Torres is moody, injury-prone and it's now pretty clear he has been looking for a move like this for some time. Thanks for the memories and good luck Nando.... I have a feeling you may need it.RoscoHave to agree with you on all points there, even though it does leave a bitter taste in the mouth. FSG seem to be sticking to their morals as we are being linked with quality young players.

Just hope kennys ace up the sleeve ain't Andy CarrolBaldrickWhat's not to like? The guy's been banging them in regularly enough??RoscoHalf a season of form in the premier league doesn't merit 30 million smackers in my book.
Maybe a touch cynical considering his ageBaldrickSuarez to wear the coveted No 7............no pressure!!RoscoIm Sure the main man will let him know exactly what it meansRedDownUndaJust read that ManU have rejected bid for Howard Webb.TawfiqI wonder how Jovanovic would look as central striker and Suarez on the left and Kuyt on the right.. It sounds crazy but it might be an option.. Dont look like we will be signing anyone before deadline .. I seriously hope at least Charlie Adam.. Because simply I dont think Villa and Newcastle will allow their peeps move out that easily..
Looking at videos for players proposed to liverpool only one i liked relatively was Negredo but having Carrol would be bril, though it seems out of reach as he loves his childhood team.. Cant blame him.. Gomez from Bayern is not allowed to leave as I read earlier, he is my fav to land honestly.. but I'd rather have someone with a fighting spirit and I would like to see Liverpool not depend on 1 or 2 players, because we will never win any trophies like that..
Having a south american forward will remind us (hopefully) of liverpool golden days..
Lets hope for the best, im planning on staying online till the closure of winter transfers because I have a feeling something will turn up..
Cheers
YNWAYannI always thought foreplay was meant to be enjoyable but this is slowly killing me.RoscoUrban legend that . . . Foreplay's well over-rated.YannA bit like Andy CarrollRoscoWell if we are already bidding with the Torres money I'd say his leaving is just a formality nowRedDownUndaSuarez and Carrol. I can see it now, if one doesn't bite your ear off, the other will punch your lights out. Haven't had this much bastardry around since Tommy Smith. Ahh, the good old days. 30 Mill though????RoscoAndy freaking carrol!!RedDownUndaAndy freakin' Carroll what???Rosco"Newcastle reject 30million pound bid from Liverpool for Andy Carrol"YannBeing reported that a £30million bid has been made for him by LFC. WTF?RoscoI'm sorry, Darren bent is a proven premier league striker and I thought 24 was over the odds for him. 30m for Andy carrol is just ludicrousjustinIt's certainly going to be sad to see Torres leave but it has definitely made it all the more interesting looking at how the Club have been handling it. Liverpool are clearly a club on the up and while that might not be quick enough for a certain Fernando, what awaits is an exciting future for anyone related with the Club.

Tough, but exciting times for sure. Most people now would've probably gotten over the emotional state of how Torres has handled the situation (still can't believe he'd not want a proper sending off with dignity and all) and if we're able to get a couple of better players like those mentioned (young, carrol, etc) it will definitely won't be the end of the Club but a rebirth of sorts.

It might just be the time Liverpool cease to be over reliant on Gerrard and Torres and have a real team instead. Thinking back on how Henry left Arsenal which allowed more players to blossom comes to mind as well.PDubz18Inter Milan offloaded Ibrahimovic after the 08-09 season because the team was way too reliant on his heroics. The next season, boom treble. Torres might be the same way.

And also, when Henry left Arsenal, they stopped winning trophies.RoscoAyala off to derby on loanYannRumours on Twitter that Liverpool have removed all Fernando Torres promotional images and videos from their website. Can anyone verify this?RoscoHaven't heard anything concrete. Though regardless whether he leaves or not he's probably not the best candidate to be promoting us at the moment.BjornhofvendahlKonchesky out on loan - finally.http://www.skysports.com/story...RoscoDalgleish press conference coming up If anyone can get sky sportsJimson46I think Luis Suarez would bring some talent to Liverpool and would be a great attacking option for Dalglish. Liverpool would benefit from his skills and so would future < a href="http://www.sportsidols.co.uk/l... Memorabilia for Liverpool fans :)RoscoAfter following toothless Chaz Adam for years at Rangers and St Mirren if we fork out 10 million for him I may blow my brains out. Ashley Young would be an exciting prospect.

Still wouldn't rule out an audacious Ageuro bid alsoYannRosco, do tell. What's got you spooked re Adam? Is he lazy?RoscoWell in his defence, he wasn't played in his current and clearly best position. The team is built around him at Blackpool, something that sure as hell ain't gonna happen at anfield. Stick him elsewhere on the park and he's worse than useless.

See koncheskys off to Nottingham forest, certainly more his arena!YannGood. Now he can go crying to his mummy and hide under her stinking skirt.

On Torres, part of me can’t stop thinking the Hodgson disaster with its dramatic lowering of ambition for a once proud club has much to do with Torres’ state of mind and once momentum for change builds in a player it is hard to quell. Anyway...whatever.Kaihttp://soccernet.espn.go.com/n...blog comments powered by Disqus

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By: Noel | January 31st, 2011
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Right, so we’ve got about six hours left in this window. Is everybody having fun?

The big news flying every which way is that after early reports Newcastle hadn’t been in touch with Liverpool over everybody’s second favourite felon (come back when you’ve been convicted of multiple assaults and we’ll talk about moving you up to top spot, son) at the club, everybody now thinks that Liverpool may very well be in for Andy Carroll to the tune of a whopping £30-35. Which is, you know, is kind of holy crap expensive. Though as Ed pointed out in the comments of the last thread, “it’s crazy money, but informed by the Torres debacle and likely driven by the fact that he’s young, British, and that Darren Bent was signed for crazy money as well.”

Which is completely true. Still, it’s a little off putting to think Liverpool might well pony up Llorente money (ie., the rumoured 40M Euros) for the player in question. But best British striker since Rooney, in a market driven upwards by the Citys and Madrids, and he’s British, and Bent isn’t as good as him, and he’s British, and Newcastle knows we’re playing with £50M or so with like six hours left in the bloody transfer window. And he’s British. And there’s six hours left in the window so if you want somebody, well, there you go, because value isn’t a consistent in football and there are a lot of factors at play here.

So hey, it’s all relative, right? And it’s not likely he probably wouldn’t be a good addition that might still leave enough to pay for a squad player or two to strengthen the overall, erm, strength of the squad. Still, absolutely nothing is confirmed yet, so who knows what will happen. For what it’s worth, The Liverpool Echo does think it’s happening, as does Tony Barrett, who claims Newcastle have not actually rejected the latest £35M bid but are instead just trying to find their own replacement. And both The Telegraph and the BBC think Torres to Chelsea is down to the sorting formalities stage.

Elsewhere, as mentioned by Ed previously, Daniel Ayala is off to Derby to get games and Konchesky is off to Forest to get him out of our hair. Not sure how Konchesky qualifies to play for Forest having already done so for two clubs this season, but presumably it’s down to it being a loan or that the team doesn’t play in the same level of the pyramid. God bless FIFA’s inane bureaucracy and endless sub-clauses, I guess.

Updates to follow.

Immediate Update: In news for the future news, Liverpool have signed 17-year old midfield prospect Conor Thomas from Coventry City on a loan that will be made permanent at the end of the season. One suspects that he will not walk into the first team.

Update: Ed says the official site has confirmation that Liverpool has met Newcastle’s asking price for Carroll, which means it’s pretty much going to happen and we’d best start finding the upside. Of course, the official site is overloaded and I can’t get into it, so maybe Ed’s just screwing with us. Elsewhere, Baldrick passes along that Sky passes along that Charlie Adam is on the way, and the various Twitterati seem to all say the same thing. Meanwhile Balague says that all that’s left for Torres is permission from LFC to take his medical with CFC. And then to take it. And sign various papers and shit.

Spiteful Update from Ed:

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Things have slowed down a bit update from Noel: After initial reports that the Charlie Adam fee was as high as £14M, it turns out to apparently be “only” £8M. Which at least isn’t as bad as £14M. Also, Sky is reporting that both Carroll and Adam have arrived at Melwood and are currently undergoing their medicals, though everything on the Adam front appears to be a touch more speculative than the Carroll deal.

Video killed the radio stardate: Andy Carroll’s goals this year, since he’s a relative unknown to many (at least compared to his price tag). If and when match compilations pop up, I’ll pass them along. Though that will probably be in a later post. But anyhow…

Some Related Liverpool Posts:Transfermas Morning, Rolling Updates EditionAll the Torres That’s Fit to TorresLuis Suarez Joins LFCPaul Konchesky Looks SouthSquad Announced; Fernando Torres Has Been Paying Attention

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Tags: Andy Carroll, Daniel Ayala, Fernando Torres, Paul Konchesky, Premier League, Team News, Transfer News, Transfer Rumors, Transfer Speculation, Transfers
Tweet « Transfermas Morning, Rolling Updates Edition | Home | JakePretty-boys (Torres/Babelcopter) out, hard-nosed, tough sonnuvagun kinda guys in..I approve.RhymenocerosAs an American, I think Bradley going to Villa is great...We need more Americans playing abroad (especially in England) to finally have a real competitive national team.RhymenocerosI agree with LFC...I think Carroll is going to do well. Ya we probably overpaid for him. But you know what, we are forgetting we got value on Saurez. How bout we flip the amounts on Saurez and Carroll...Suarez at 35mill and Carroll at 22...not so overpaid now?? Plus they both are young and have talent. The future is exciting...torres is the past. He did well for us and it hurts that he wants to go. But as king kenny has said, the only players we want are the ones who want to be here.BaldrickLike your style! I'm pretty excited at the prospect of the next few months but have concerns at the way The Game is heading with these massive transfer fees.RhymenocerosI could be off on the numbers exactly...but i think you get my point...LFCCOME ON YOU MOANING T*ATS CARROLL WILL BE GREAT WITH SUAREZ ADAMS PASSING AND THE MAIN MAN HIMSELF STEVEN GERRARD WE WILL BE A PROPER TEAM AGAIN A FEW MORE IN THE SUMMER AND SUSO COMING THROUGH HE IS LIKE A MINI MESSIChaseCould we get Newcastle Offside to write us a piece on Carroll? Cause right now I'm not really sure what to think of this whole deal. 35m seems like a lot to pay for a 22-year old striker with only half a year in the premier league, but then again, I've only seen him play against us and can't really attest to his true level of talent.JakeHis fists have proved he hates women, Carroll, carroll
He pins them down and sticks it in, Carroll! Carroll!
We broke the bank to get him here,
He and Suarez defenses will fear,
ANDY CARROLL LIVERPOOLS NUMBER NINE!!redtrev73Just been doing the sums and counting the beans and questioning the value and.....Jeeeez fellas...when was the last time we brought such an amount of high-profile players in at one fell swoop? 19fucking87, that's when. Barnesy, beardo, aldo and houghton came in and The King created the best team i've ever seen after the loss of the best striker in LFC history. Take off your accountant's hats and just....ENJOY. Kenny and Johnny H are bringing the ambition and the joy back to Anfield and i am one excited redman. Fuck knows we deserve a bit of fun ladies and gents. My advice? Grab a beer, whack on the flat screen and just savour a window which doesnt end in frustration. I'l be waving torres off and dreaming of how many goals, cups and probably red cards andy and luis will rack up!! Fuck the negativity redmen...now, about that beer....SignalflashI have to agree. I have a Torres jersey and I was very disappointed by the whole thing when it broke, but despite this news I feel that there is some hope that things will work out rather than when Hodgson was coach. As someone else said, a year ago the sale would have gone to cover debt, a month ago we'd have gotten Bobby Zamorra, but now we have Kenny and some decent players coming in. Tomkins has written a very good piece about the relative merits of having paid so much for Carroll.Chase FowlerCould we getbrotorres has gon it all over he has gon no more doubts debates it a dun deal it has now bin confirmed. wil i mis him? i mist him a long time ago coz he was not der a long time ago so now no not 1 bitPyrotime to rip torres' name from my liverpool jersey. that guy can go lose at chelsea, and he must be praying that he can make it back unto the national team set upJakeDid you read we made a bid for Micah Richards? What could that one be about?RoscoThat's the Torres' shirt burning begunbroeverbody its happend torres has gon carrol has arrived.justinAnyone finding it strange that Torres actually still wants to leave after seeing FSG make such statements?

In the overall outlook though, while Carrol might not be worth the tag at the moment, it could pay dividends in a couple years time, certainly brings to the team a different dimension it currently has and with the new and rumoured additions, the team's getting rather flexible as well rather than the predicatable Torres upfront and Gerrard in the hole behind couple seasons back.

It might be silly money now but it's exciting and when was the last time we ever had it anyway? Might as well enjoy it.

Nonetheless, the best signing we've made the entire season thus far has to be King Kenny.BaldrickTotally agree the man has breathed new life into the club, who'd have thought we'd be here this time last transfer window? Must admit I have reservations over the Carroll price but so do Chelski fans of Torres' fee......mad money! It's gonna be an interesting game next Sunday that's for sure.

Is anyone laying odds on Torres getting injured any time soon?

By the way Adam was last spotted in Blackpool reception an hour ago but apparently the mountain is now moving to Mohammed, no idea of a fee though. Probably best not to ask.broevery club in the world now knows were sweating over a striker. if we asked to buy hesky or some old shit player they will say 30 mil plus it an out rage clubs wil think day can take the piss out of us. compose ur self liverpool torees has bin shit all season and dun fuck al so were not going to miss him for the rest of it. so once more compose ur self show ur power not to be messed with and rather tell chelsey and torres to wait or dont waste a bargin 50 million on andy carrol. with no disrespect he is a good player worth arond 15 to 18 million. but not 35. show dem who is the bosssRed2deathThe question is why should we be sweating? As long as Henry/Dalglish say "no deal", then no one goes anywhere. End of story. Neither Chelsea nor Torres have the power to force their hand.broye true my point in a way. lets do wat alex did to roony. make him wait til the end of the seson den get 50 million were players r a bit cheeper coz more become avalible on the market. adam is headin this way regardles that was coming out of are own money well the owners money anyway. were not going to achive anythink splasing out 35 mil on andy carol coz were so far behind so lets run the seseon by den start splashing the cash but a lot more wisley with out shit lets fil a holeNoelSignal of intent, probably. I mean, Torres wants to go to an aging club that isn't going to win the League or in Europe this year? That's a big blow, and they're signaling to the football world that he's wrong. I mean, take the cost out of it, and even with Torres leaving, a window that sees Suarez, Carroll, and Adam arrive--along with possibly a left back and, as Dalglish hinted at, a center back--that's a massive, massive signal of their intent. They'll have just gone out in the bloody January window and just about rebuilt what Hicks and Gillett stripped from the squad side over their last 18 months.Red2deathWell, unless FSG have the power to keep this going...

Sorry, can't take the cost out of it knowing that we don't have endless pockets.

Suarez and Adam arriving would already signal strong intent, and that'd still leave us a very good war chest for the summer. For even more of a revolution, how about Ashley Young, Eden Hazard, Oxelade-Chamberlain, Fernando Llorente. All of those, possibly bar Llorente, would cost less than Andy Carroll.

My concern is that with this crazy spending in Jan, we can expect very little in summer. So, we hope that Suarez, Adam and Carroll can lead us to CL football again, because that's going to be the FSG revolution for now. These 3 players are what the new dawn at LFC is all about. I hope our rivals are shivering in their shoes now.JakeDo we know for sure that we don't have endless pockets?RoscoHell yeah. Couldn't have put it better myselfEdI think being privy to any of the in's and out's of how long they've been tracking anyone would better inform us as to whether or not they're actually panicking. Exorbitant amounts for both Carroll and Adam, but I'm inclined to wait for explanations that we'll never get.ChrisLFCI thought not much ever happened in the January window...??NoelIt's not supposed to. But latest (not soild at this point, treat with extreme skepticism) rumours now have Warnock arriving on loan and saying Liverpool will manage to also buy Young from Villa. Which is just beyond insane. And kinda makes me want to curse at Torres, but it would be while I was also laughing hysterically and not at all an angry cursing out.Dillonindgei think the fact that dalglish has only the rest of this season to impress and hes desperate to hold onto his head coach roll which i hope he does it will be no surprise to me and a bit of a worry that he may panic buy with the pressure of only 3 months to do well.there were no rumours to my knowledge that we had a big interest in carroll then all of a sudden 1 day left before transfer dead line and were willing to part with £35 mill or maybe even more .i would rather loan benzema pay his wages and maybe a small fee on top for now.if he dont do well we dont have to buy him at the end of the season.JakeBut you realize Henry has to approve the purchase, right? If he didn't either a) think Kenny was a very legit long-term option (and gosh I hope he does), or b) believe in Carroll's potential, regardless of manager, or BOTH, this purchase would not have gone through.JakeMy theory: Torres is acting on behalf of LFC. They view Chelsea as our realistic competition this year for 4th place, so Torres has been teasing them to prevent them from making any signings. Torres, Suarez AND Carroll line up versus Chelsea next Sunday at Stamford Bridge.BaldrickCharlie Adam in a car on his way to Melwood (Sky Sports)Dillon indgewere about to get some serious cash for torres and then waste most of it straight away to an over priced player.complete madness.we can do alot more with that cash surely.dont get me wrong carrol is a good young player with bags of improvement to come im sure but hes not worth that kind of money.seems to me like were trying to panic buy,not a good idea.we could get benzema on loan for rest of season and maybe buy him in the summer if he does well.ashely young were talkin £20 mill which would give us £15 mill change to strengthen elswhere for the price of carroll and in fact newcastle are probably going to want more than £35 mill especially with them knowing we have just recieved £50 mill for torres.dont do it dalglish its not good value at all.dont panic buy.save the money untill the summer where im sure we will be able to do so much more with that cash.we are unlikely to get champions league this season anyway so why rush into any huge buys.next season will be a huge season for us.just keep up the steady progress this season and we just might get a uafa spotEdCarroll fee agreed apparently...not sure if you want me to keep chiming if you'll be around, Noel?

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news...NoelUp to you completely. If you want to keep going for a few hours and then hand it off to me, or whatever. Or if you just have something to say about whatever latest developlemt develops. Just let me know if it's something bigger you're doing, but otherwise... shit'll sort itself out.RoscoWhat the fuck is happening here?
Rejected new offer
Accepted carrols transfer request.

Say whaaaaat??Red2death35m for Carroll is absolutely absurd. There'd better be unanimous confirmation from a jury of 10 gypsy fortune tellers and 10 astrologers that he'll become the next Alan Shearer (injury-free, mind you) - and then maybe we could consider that amount.

I don't see why Liverpool are panicking right now. At least it seems as though they are with all these crazy offers being made. Frankly, Torres is still under contract, so the club holds all the cards now. They just need to refuse to be pushed around.

To Chelsea: The going price has now been bumped up to 100m. Tell Roman to cough that up or come back in summer.

To Torres: We'll let you go in June. Till then, put on the shirt and play like a professional.Mjc8xThe thing with Andy Carroll is that his numbers are actually better than Torres. According to BBC:

"While we wait for more developments on the two strikers apparently leaving and arriving at Anfield for £50m and £35m respectively, let's compare Reds (and possibly soon to be Chelsea) frontman Fernando Torres and his apparent replacement, Newcastle's Andy Carroll. According to Opta, in the Premier League this season, Carroll has more goals than Torres (11 to nine), more assists (three to two) and the time lapse between goals is less (148 mins per goal compared to 211 mins per goal). The Newcastle striker's shooting accuracy is worse than Torres however, with 43% of his shots hitting the target compared to the Spaniard's 52%."Red2deathWe're comparing Carroll's most prominent season to Torres' worst season in living memory.

Also, we know that Torres is class. Class is permanent.

As for Carroll, he's not even flavour of the month... that'd be Charlie Adam.
Or hottest striker on form... that'd be Berbatov.
Or most coveted youngster... Oxelade-Chamberlain.

Seriously, I find nothing in Andy Carroll enough to justify anywhere near 35m.
He's young, he's British, and he's been decent this season - that's about it!NoelAnd there are six hours left in the window and everybody's dealing with us with the Torres money in mind, which would probably be the same situation in the summer.sillyseasonWe're not even comparing Carroll's best season..we're comparing his best HALF season. Seriously, no player who was a decent CHAMPIONSHIP striker a yr ago should warrant 35m, or even 25m. That is david villa, eto'o, berbatov money. Carroll is a glorified emile heskey.NoelWell, let's hope not, though you're right that it is a concern.blog comments powered by Disqus

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